Joe’s Inn, a Turn for the Worst.

The trend since the start of this ridiculous smoking ban in Virginia has been toward more smoking restaurants not less. Granted it has been slow, but at least, with very few exceptions things have been moving in the right direction. One of these exceptions was Sammy G’s in Fredericksburg, but that was because of a change in ownership.

Joe’s Inn in Richmond on the other hand has been a great benefactor of smoking clientele. The smoking section packs it in and it can sometimes be hard to find a table even at lunch time. The non-smoking section also does well, but not quite like the smoking side. This is about the last place you would expect to go nonsmoking.

The nonsmoking side fills the need of the nonsmoker while smokers (spending many dollars) pack the smoking side. I believe it is safe to say that they account for at least half the business while at the same time creating no down side for the nonsmokers.

Today I went to Joe’s for lunch. When the waitress saw me reach for a e-cigarette, she told me I could not smoke until after 10:00 pm. I informed her that that was a little late for lunch. I find this completely mind boggling, but at least explains why the place was nearly empty at 12:10 in the afternoon. There is one thing I will say for the place; it’s now so quiet and peaceful without all those pesky customers.

 

 

The Gost Town Formally know as Joe's Inn.

There is weather they know it or not,  plenty of area restaurants ready to take these displaced smoking customers that Joe’s no longer wants.

 

Having a great lunch (and a e-cigarette) here at Mulligan’s.

 

(lets all try to keep Joe’s looking like their photo until smoking is reinstated.)

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13 Responses

  1. Are you frigging kidding me???? 10:00 pm..I guess that to accommodate their “customers”?? I would love for someone to explain to me how just because you smoke you are suddenly not one of their “customers”. Smokers are notorious for spending more money on food and for leaving larger tips. So Joe’s in doesn’t want to make money and their staff doesn’t want good tips?? Please, I was having a good day until I read this. I’ll never go in there again, you can count on that!

    • George, Opposing opinion, OK. Mindless name calling, not OK.

      • Mindless name calling? Everything I said was based off of the redicioulous misktakes you made. So, really- opposing opinion, OK. incoherent, poorly written blog, not OK.

      • You attacked another poster. Worst of all, you offered no argument, just name calling.
        My mistake you mention was a typo and you offered nothing about content.
        It seems all you can do is proof read.

  2. Good lord! This is little blog is absolutely ridiculous. I want the few people who actually read this crap to take note of something. The photo of joe’s Inn “gost” town was taken at 10:30 AM on a Monday. Joe’s always looks like this at 10:30 in the morning. Come on! I garuntee your business will not be missed. People will still come to joe’s. Quit complaining, this decision was made by the business to make it a more enjoyable place to eat, and work and hang out. Geeze, count your lucky Damn stars you can smoke at any restaurant at all!

    • I said in the post the photo was taken at 12:10. I just check the time stamp and I stand corrected, it was 12:11. If anyone doubts that, I will happy to meet you in person so you can see for yourself (I don’t know how to fake a time stamp). Don’t know what makes Lars think he knows when the photo was taken, but he wrong.

      One thing he is right about is that people will still come in, just not nearly as many. Nonsmokers have so many options that they won’t be enough to make up for the loss of smoking customers.

  3. I am a smoker and part of the management at Joe’s. The decision to become non-smoking for the better part of our working day was not made easily. The amount of smoke became uncontrollable for us. We have two smoke eaters, that were being cleaned twice a week. Unfortunately, they simply were not able to keep pace with the volume of smoke we were experiencing. It was uncomfortable for smokers as well as non smokers. We as Virginians need to take issue with our state government inserting itself into private business. Before the smoking ban Joes’s was able to accommodate all of our customers. As it stands now there are too few places to enjoy a cigarette and a meal. Joe’s ventilation was not able to keep pace with the added demand.

    • You said “We as Virginians need to take issue with our state government inserting itself into private business.”
      So very true.

      One less smoking establishment however, is not helping with the problem.

      Smoke Eaters are old technology and not that effective. This is the way to eliminate smoke (https://vollara.com/shop/environmental-purity) and it’s less costly then Smoke Eater. Will probably still need frequent cleaning.

      You shouldn’t have to choose between smoking and nonsmoking customers. Hard working business people deserve all the customers they can bring in.

  4. I have several comments to make regarding Joe’s Inn and its amended smoking policy….

    First of all, Joe’s Inn IS a Richmond institution and has been for nearly 60 years, NOT because it has been a haven for smokers but because of its consistently great food and friendly service. It is first and foremost a RESTAURANT…and that is the reason that MOST people go there. The blogger who proclaimed that she “will never go in there again” will surely find plenty of places to smoke, however she will not find Joe’s famous baked Spaghetti Ala Greek anywhere else! But let’s be honest….FOOD evidently doesn’t matter to her or the other outraged smokers. They are not mad about a decline in the quality of the food or the service…(neither of which has occurred by the way!)…they are simply mad that they can’t smoke morning, noon, and night (before 10 pm, that is).

    I applaud Joe’s management for taking a stand that has resulted in a few disgruntled, indignant people who’ll have to go outside to smoke until 10 pm or go elsewhere to do so…..a stand that will definitely, not maybe, DEFINITELY result in Joe’s hard-working staff breathing clean air instead of toxic, secondhand smoke for hours and hours on end. THAT decision made for the health and well-being of their faithful employees INSTEAD of the health and well-being of their “bottom line” is honorable and admirable.

    Make no mistake. Joe’s Inn will continue to flourish….thanks to the legions of faithful devotees, non-smokers AND smokers alike, who appreciate what made Joe’s famous in the first place…great food and friendly service.

    • “First of all, Joe’s Inn IS a Richmond institution and has been for nearly 60 years, NOT because it has been a haven for smokers but because of its consistently great food and friendly service. It is first and foremost a RESTAURANT…and that is the reason that MOST people go there. ”

      The fact it is a restaurant is the reason I go there, that and the fact that everyone (including smokers) had been welcome.

      “They are not mad about a decline in the quality of the food or the service”

      There not mad period, their just spending their money where their welcome, don’t most folks.

      “Make no mistake. Joe’s Inn will continue to flourish”

      Where are the customers, check the photo that is now the post smoking lunchtime crowed (I use the word crowed loosely).
      How do you define flourish, crash and burn.

      “thanks to the legions of faithful devotees”

      What is this a restaurant or a cult.

      “non-smokers AND smokers alike”

      Hello, that’s the point of this post, the smokers are gone and they were a very large part of the business.

  5. As an ex-smoker who was at Joe’s for lunch today, I was thrilled to be able to enjoy great food and excellent service without smoke. Also, as a former waiter, I can say that smokers don’t necessarily order more food nor tip better. However, I plan to tip more at Joe’s in the future and may, in fact, live longer now that smoke has been eliminated.

    • Maui, you said ” I was thrilled to be able to enjoy great food and excellent service without smoke.” That’s as it should be. However, it’s nothing new. Joe’s has maintained a separate non smoking section with independent ventilation the whole time they had smoking.

      “Also, as a former waiter, I can say that smokers don’t necessarily order more food nor tip better.” Statistically indicate that smokers tip better.

      “I plan to tip more at Joe’s in the future” It’s going to have to be a lot more. “and may, in fact, live longer now that smoke has been eliminated.”
      That can only be true if you were the one doing the smoking.

  6. You seem to be the only one having a problem understanding this blog post. I have recheck and found the content if the blog to be accurate. I will be happy to address any questions you have.
    Do you have anything relevant to say?

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